After going on CNN and claiming that President Obama invaded Afghanistan, Trump campaign spokesperson Katrina Pierson went on Fox News to defend the Republican presidential nominee’s decision not to release his tax returns.

But instead of getting interviewed by Trump supporting Fox personalities like Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity, she went toe to toe with weekend host Arthel Neville, who did not go light on her.

“As you know, Katrina, presidential candidates have consistently released their tax returns since the 70s,” Neville explained. “And you also know there is no existing law barring people from releasing their tax returns during an audit.”

“So the question is that everyone wants to know, why won’t Mr. Trump release his tax returns?” the Fox News host asked. “And can you answer the implications that he’s hiding something?”

Pierson claimed that Trump’s lawyers were the one who told him not to release tax returns while under audit.

“This really has become much of a novelty in presidential campaigns,” the Trump spokesperson declared.

“What has become a novelty?” Neville interrupted.

“Just simply releasing tax returns,” Pierson stated.

“It’s been going on since the 1970s,” Neville pointed out. “It’s a tradition, not a novelty. The voters want to know.”

“Here’s the thing,” Neville continued. “The reason why the voters like Mr. Trump is because he is a successful businessman. They think that he can do the same for the business of this country: Create jobs, get the economy back on track. So, that is why they want to see his tax returns. Why won’t he show them? Put the proof in the pudding.”

Pierson then tried to change the subject by claiming that the media is trying to “bully” Trump.

“It’s not about the media,” Neville said. “This is a tradition, Katrina. Why is it the media?”

“It is a novelty tradition,” Pierson repeated. “Long-term career politicians like Hillary Clinton, they do things outside the standard. They develop charities, call them foundations. And they do all their dirty work within those boundaries, which is exactly why the FBI wants to investigate the [Clinton Foundation] today.”

Neville quickly pointed out that Hillary Clinton released her tax returns.

“And, Katrina, we’re going to keep going on this because people want to know,” Neville pressed. “It’s not about a gotcha with Mr. Trump. Again, he is a successful businessman that he been touting to us this entire campaign. That is why they want to see.”

“I haven’t seen any Trump supporters [asking for his tax returns],” Pierson blurted.

“Excuse me,” Neville remarked, putting her foot down. “Everybody wants to see his tax returns, including the people who are voting for him.”

“I have not seen that,” Pierson said.